Does MN9 imply a cyclic causation? How does it work?
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The Nanamoli and Bodhi translation of MN9 states in 2 excerpts:
> With the arising of the taints there is the arising of ignorance. With
> the cessation of the taints there is the cessation of ignorance. .....
>
> With the arising of ignorance there is the arising of the taints.
> With the cessation of ignorance there is the cessation of the taints.
The same 2 excerpts from the Thanissaro translation of MN9 reads:
> From the origination of fermentation comes the origination of
> ignorance. From the cessation of fermentation comes the cessation of
> ignorance. .....
>
> From the origination of ignorance comes the origination of
> fermentation. From the cessation of ignorance comes the cessation of
> fermentation.
When I took a look at the Pali version of Sammaditthi Sutta (MN9) , I'm guessing that these phrases refer to:
> Āsavasamudayā avijjāsamudayo, āsavanirodhā avijjānirodho .....
>
> Avijjāsamudayā āsavasamudayo, avijjānirodhā āsavanirodho
How does this logic work?
When A arises, B arises. When A ceases, B ceases.
When B arises, A arises. When B ceases, A ceases.
Does this imply a cyclic causation (similar to chicken and egg)? Why is this the case? How does it work? How can the cycle be broken?
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