This consciousness turns back; it doesn't go further than name-and-form
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In SN 12.65 , we read about the cyclic relationship between consciousness and name-and-form, which has been asked in this question .
However, this sutta also has the curious phrase in bold below.
What does this phrase mean? "*This consciousness turns back; it does not go further than name-and-form.*"
How does it fit with the rest of sutta?
As translated by Bhikkhu Bodhi:
> “Then, bhikkhus, it occurred to me: ‘When what exists does birth come
> to be?… existence?… clinging?… craving?… feeling?… contact?… the six
> sense bases?… name-and-form? By what is name-and-form conditioned?’
> Then, bhikkhus, through careful attention, there took place in me a
> breakthrough by wisdom: ‘When there is consciousness, name-and-form
> comes to be; name-and-form has consciousness as its condition.’
>
> “Then, bhikkhus, it occurred to me: ‘When what exists does
> consciousness come to be? By what is consciousness conditioned? ’
> Then, bhikkhus, through careful attention, there took place in me a
> breakthrough by wisdom: ‘When there is name-and-form, consciousness
> comes to be; consciousness has name-and-form as its condition.’
>
> “Then, bhikkhus, it occurred to me: ‘**This consciousness turns back; it
> does not go further than name-and-form.** It is to this extent that one
> may be born and age and die, pass away and be reborn, that is, when
> there is consciousness with name-and-form as its condition, and
> name-and-form with consciousness as its condition. With name-and-form
> as condition, the six sense bases; with the six sense bases as
> condition, contact…. Such is the origin of this whole mass of
> suffering.’
As translated by Bhikkhu Sujato with Pali version included (from here ):
> This consciousness turns back from name-and-form, and doesn’t go
> beyond that.
>
> *paccudāvattati kho idaṃ viññāṇaṃ nāmarūpamhā na paraṃ gacchati.*
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