Sallatha Sutta and modern psychology
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The Sallatha Sutta, famous for the idea of two arrows, has the following passages that are less often discussed. I am particularly interested in interpretations of the highlighted words and how they might relate to the modern psychological concept of **decentering**, **defusion**, **disidentification** or a **metacognitive stance**. (See modern passage below.) Both personal opinions and references welcome.
Sallatha Sutta, SN 36.6, Thanissaro Bikkhu translation
About the "uninstructed person"...
> Sensing a feeling of pleasure, he senses it as though **joined** with it.
> Sensing a feeling of pain, he senses it as though **joined** with it.
> Sensing a feeling of neither-pleasure-nor-pain, he senses it as though
> **joined** with it. This is called an uninstructed run-of-the-mill person
> **joined** with birth, aging, & death; with sorrows, lamentations, pains,
> distresses, & despairs. He is **joined**, I tell you, with suffering &
> stress.
And later about the "well-instructed disciple", the same structure, for example...
> This is called a well-instructed disciple of the noble ones **disjoined**
> from birth, aging, & death; from sorrows, lamentations, pains,
> distresses, & despairs.
The Nyanaponika Thera translation is a bit more condensed here and uses "fettered" instead of "joined"
> When he experiences a pleasant feeling, a painful feeling or a neutral
> feeling, he feels it as one **fettered** by it. Such a one, O monks,
> is called an untaught worldling who is **fettered** by birth, by old
> age, by death, by sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief and despair. He is
> fettered by suffering, this I declare
Bikkhu Bodhi (not online) uses "attached" and "detached"...
> "If he feels a pleasant feeling, he feels it **attached**. If he feels a
> painful feeling, he feels it **attached**. If he feels a neither-
> painful-nor-pleasant feeling, he feels it **attached**. This, bhikkhus, is
> called an uninstructed worldling who is **attached** to birth, aging and
> death; who is **attached** to sorrow, lamentation, pain, displeasure, and
> despair; who is **attached** to suffering, I say.
>
>
> If he feels a pleasant feeling, he feels it **detached**. If he feels a
> painful feeling, he feels it detached. If he feels a neither-
> painful-nor-pleasant feeling, he feels it **detached**. This, bhikkhus, is
> called a noble disciple who is **detached** from birth, aging, and death;
> who is **detached** from sorrow, lamentation, pain, displeasure, and
> despair; who is **detached** from suffering, I say.
From the point of view of Buddhadharma of the Pali Canon, is it reasonable to say that the highlighted words (in the negative sense -- disjoined, not fettered, detached) have roughly the same meaning as the modern psychological concept in this passage from a 2002 paper by Teasdale .
> Particular importance has been attached to the shift in cognitive set
> known as “**decentering**” or “**disidentification**,” in which,
> rather than simply being their emotions, or identifying personally
> with negative thoughts and feelings, patients relate to negative
> experiences as mental events in a wider context or field of awareness.
> For example, a patient’s perspective on thoughts and feelings of
> worthlessness might change from one in which they are experienced as
> the “reality by which I am condemned” to one in which they are
> experienced more as “passing thoughts and feelings that may or may not
> have some truth in them.
Asked by David Lewis
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Feb 12, 2016, 06:13 AM
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