What to make of Jhanas as explained in the pragmatic dharma movement?

In this set of videos two experts (Kenneth Folk and Nick Halay) go through the 13(?) jhanas Several aspects of this video make me wonder - primarily, I find it curious that they can speak and move their limbs while being in a jhana. I notice Nick instinctively wipes his nose at 7:18 , and rubs his eye a little later, all while supposedly in the third and fourth jhanas! Can others with jhana experience or with experience in the pragmatic dhamma movement comment, and help me understand? What am I seeing here? Are they really speaking of the same jhanas that we commonly understand from the teachings?